Your question about Black Mask has started me
thinking about how I collected the set and then read most of it. In fact,
I've often said once you complete a set and then read much of it, the next step
in the collecting process is to sell it.
I may have told you this story before and some of it I wrote online for Mystery File back when I started the Collecting Pulps: A Memoir series but it all started when I was drafted into the army in 1966. The Vietnam war was heating up and I was headed for an infantry company when the army discovered I knew how to type thus possibly saving my life. I now had plenty of time to read and while in the PX I noticed Ron Goulart's The Hardboiled Dicks.
US Army PX - inset image of Ron Goulart's The Hardboiled Dicks |
For a few years I was just about the only market for Black
Mask, so while they were rare, I had no real competition. This was in
the 1969 and early 70's period. But I kept raving and talking about how
great the magazine was that I created my own competition. Jack [Last name
redacted for privacy] before he started to collect it, only collected SF
and hero pulps. Maybe a few westerns also. In fact after buying Goulart's
issues, I discovered Jack lived in Trenton also and I visited him. I had
no car at the time and took two buses to get to his house. He had 5
issues which he sold me for 2 or 3 dollars each. All were from the thirties.
But he soon started to collect them also after hearing me talk about the
magazine. We finally both had the only complete sets in the world.
And we both lived in Trenton, NJ!
I always had my eye out for pulps but I never found anything in antique stores. A friend once found some and sold me a few issues. Another friend once stumbled across an original cover painting from a 1914 Cavalier by Modest Stein. He traded it to me for 4 Jim Thompson paperbacks. Years later I sold that to another collector, who has it still hanging in his bedroom.
Black Mask - October 1921 issue, the last one that Walker and Jack needed |
For many years some collectors kept getting us confused with
each other. For instance I don't think Sam Moskowitz ever did know who was
who. We were just the guys collecting Black Mask in Trenton.
I never did find a large lot of Black Mask for sale. Goulart sold me several issues and a comic collector mailed me about 20 issues from the early 1920's. I didn't realize that Mundell was willing to sell his Black Masks. He had 200 or so but was dying from smoking cigarettes. When I found out he sold them to Jack I was kind of unhappy and in fact I told him I would have paid more for the issues. I had most of them but I would have liked to upgrade some of my issues. I guess I was just jealous.
I think I told you about my scheme to beat Jack and others to individual copies of Black Mask. He often beat me to issues but I started mailing more money to dealers and even if someone else beat me they couldn't pass up the extra money I was offering. It's all about greed. They had greed for the extra money and I had greed for more Black Masks!
Pulpcon did not start until 1972, so I developed a system of writing hundreds of letters to collectors asking them if they had non-SF pulps for sale. Plus I started buying pulps from Richard Minter who was selling through the mail. He had great contacts among the old time collectors and knew where to find any title you might want. And his prices were very reasonable and affordable to a someone like me with a family. Every week I would receive two or three packages from Minter, all wrapped in brown paper with string. They all had old 3 cent stamps also because some collectors paid him off in stamps instead of money. These packages continued all through the 1970's and most of the 1980's.
Photo of Rick and Mildred Minter courtesy Barry Traylor, pulp collector and Pulpfest organizer |
Once Pulpcon started in 1972, I filled my car up each year with pulps plus I made the necessary contacts in the dealer's room to buy many pulps through the mail later on. I also started collecting original pulp art and I managed to buy many pulp cover paintings over the years. One of my best contacts was Harry Noble of Morristown, NJ. We became best friends visiting each other a couple hundred times. He sold me many extensive runs of pulps on the installment plan. In other words if a set cost $5000 I would pay him off every two weeks in installments of a hundred to two hundred dollars until the debt was paid.
Many years at Pulpcon I bought so many pulps that they would not fit in my car and so I would arrange for someone to mail me several boxes. I was good friends with Nils Hardin, the publisher of XENOPHILE and he mailed me many boxes. One year Pulpcon announced that the dealer's room would stay open as long as there was one dealer and one collector selling and buying pulps. That rule only lasted one year since I kept the room open until two am in the morning buying pulps. Rusty Hevelin, the Pulpcon organizer, had to stay in the room to lock it up when I finally left. He was not happy...
Rusty Hevelin at a SF convention in the 1970s |
I know it's hard to believe but I completed my sets of Black
Mask and Weird Tales by 1972(except for the October 1921 Black Mask and
the second issue of Weird Tales, both of which I tracked down later in the
1970's).
You asked me how many of the Black Masks did I actually read. For the most part the 1920's were not that interesting except for Dashiell Hammett of course and maybe Daly. Even when Joseph Shaw took over in late 1926, it took him a couple years to get together a stable of writers who would be able to write quality hard boiled fiction. By 1929 he had the writers so though I didn't read much in 1920-1926, I found 1927 and 1928 interesting. I read just about all of 1929-1936, when Shaw left the magazine. Except for Woolrich and Gruber and a couple others, I didn't read much in 1937-1939.
Joseph T. Shaw biography by his son |
But I found Black Mask to be really excellent when Popular Publications took over in early 1940. Under the editorship of Ken White the magazine revived and became quite good during 1940-1948. I read just about all these issues because I loved the complicated and complex plots with zany and humorous characters. The stories were often quite long, sometimes close to 20,000 words. Some of these great stories are being reprinted by Steeger Books. For instance the Luther McGavock series by Merle Constiner, the Cellini Smith series by Robert Reeves, and the Rex Sackler series by D.L. Champion. Matt Moring is doing an excellent job with these collections titled The Dime Detective and The Black Mask Libraries.
[A few samples from the Black Mask library. All photos are clickable with links to Amazon]
Black Mask has been a big part of my life and I still have the 1940-1951 issues which I would now state are my favorites. I know, I know, the Joseph Shaw years were very influential but he was too hard boiled. Ken White added a sort of whacky style to the stories. You know you love something when you name your children after literary figures. My son is named Joseph Chandler Martin. He may not care about the names but that shows the influence of Joseph Shaw and Raymond Chandler on me.
Hey Walker, I love everything you write about your adventures in collecting. More please.
ReplyDeleteI am another guy whose life was saved in the Army by being able to type, write reports using complete sentences, good grammar, etc. I did go to Vietnam but was a REMF for most of my time there.
Howard, I thought I was tickete d for the infantry in Vietnam because after basic training I was assigned to advanced infantry training for another 8 weeks. I learned to fire the machine gun in addition to the rifle and 45 pistol. While waiting for my orders, one day a Sgt called us altogether and asked "ok, who knows how to type?" I raised my hand and he said "Martin you are going to typing school". Turns out the army needed typists more than riflemen. The entire organization was buried in red tape!
ReplyDeleteInstead of a killer, I became a Collector. What luck!
How fortunate for the world of pulps that you knew how to type in the Army. I also know the Jack you speak of and was quite amused when he told me the story of how you and he competed for the Black Masks. It is always a treat to read your memories of pulp collecting.
ReplyDeleteIt's been 50 or so years since Jack and I started competing against each other for Black Mask. The collecting world was different back then. We both ended up with complete sets but now in 2020, it may not even be possible to put together a complete set. It certainly will be very expensive!
ReplyDeleteI love, love, love hearing about this. I started collecting reprint paperbacks when I was 10 or 11, soon met Sheldon Jaffery, who lived a few miles away from me in Cleveland, because of an article in the local paper. I called him and started buying Arkhams from him, but I simply missed the boat on collecting pulps until later. As a kid I thought that they were just too rare and expensive. Really, I just didn't know where to look. Cleveland was such a great book town, they were probably all around me. I remember the first pulps I bought: it was at Victor Hugo books in Boston. I was probably 13 or 14 and on a family trip. They had milk crates full of Weird Tales. I only had money for two (I had to beg that from my dad). They were $6 each. Like a dope I grabbed ones from the 1940s because they reprinted Lovecraft stories, but they probably had much earlier ones. I still have them (and now, much of the run from 1927 on). I didn't really start collecting in earnest until grad school and discovered Pulpcon.
ReplyDeleteDavid, it's good to hear from you. Sheldon Jaffery and I were good friends and I visited him several times in Cleveland and stayed over at his house. He visited me also and we enjoyed Pulpcon together during the 1980's and 1990's. Unfortunately Sheldon died suddenly in 2003 and I often think of him. His wife Judy is still alive.
ReplyDeleteOur 20 year friendship started at the Cherry Hill Pulpcon in 1984 when I threw my back out during the auction. I couldn't move except to plaster myself up against the wall. My wife didn't know what to do as the room slowly emptied but Sheldon and Don Davidson saw something was wrong and helped me to my hotel room. After that we hung out each year at the convention and completed many book and pulp deals.
He was great, and very generous to a eager young horror collector. I remember that he had the original artwork for the cover of one of the Weird Tales paperbacks, which I thought was just so cool. I have a few of the books I bought off of him still (The Casebook of Lucius Leffering, a nice The Purple Cloud and The King in Yellow, some Donald Grants). I heard about his passing and talked to him a few months before. It is a funny story: As a young graduate student,I was at an academic conference in Victoria BC where I was talking about modernism and pulps, and I wandered into a bookstore that had a sash of pulps, a lot of pbs, genre fiction, etc. I was talking to the owner, getting ready to talk him down on a bulk purchase of all his pulps, and I mentioned Sheldon having gotten me started on my collecting. About five minutes later, the store's phone rang (this was way before I had a cel phone) and it was Sheldon Jaffery, looking for Black Masks. We talked and caught up for a few minutes. A year later, I heard about his passing. Very sad.
ReplyDeleteDid you know of a Cleveland bookstore in the Euclid Arcade called "Golden Argosy" run by Ben Jason, I think his name was? I would spend hours in there with him hearing about pulps, talking about ERB, etc. Like I said, Cleveland was a great book town.
Ben Jason used to attend Pulpcon and I remember him well. Sheldon also was the Treasurer of the Rowfant Club which had been a book club for members only for decades in the Cleveland area. They had a building where members could meet and use the club library. Sheldon also knew the owner of Zubel Books in Cleveland where I've bought many literary magazines and sets of magazines.
ReplyDeleteI remember Sheldon edited several collections of weird menace pulp stories plus he wrote books on collecting WEIRD TALES and Ace Doubles.
Robert Randisi, commenting on the FFB list on Facebook, noted: "Walker Martin, two good anthology choices!"
ReplyDeleteTodd, I guess he's referring to The Hard Boiled Dicks by Goulart. Plus either The Hardboiled Omnibus by Joe Shaw or The Hardboiled Detective by Herbert Ruhm. Plus there also is the Black Lizard Big Book of Black Mask edited by Otto Penzler. Maybe Steeger Books will publish a collection also!
ReplyDeleteHi. I'm trying to get hold of a copy/scan of Mike Ashley's obituary of Harold Chibbette (in The Weird Tales Collector #4). Can you help? Or would you know how to contact Mike Ashley (who is in his 70s now)? Email me on theparapsychologist [at] gmail.com.
ReplyDeleteDr. O'Keeffe, copies are available on abebooks.com. Type in "Weird Tales Collector 4" and you will see 4 copies for sale. The least expensive is $15 plus postage or you can buy the first 4 issues for $27 plus postage. Mike Ashley is still very active writing books about SF magazine history and other subjects.
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